<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13243193.post3253412839385315537..comments</id><updated>2009-11-01T17:19:36.862-08:00</updated><category term='Mule'/><category term='SD West 2008'/><category term='My OSS'/><category term='Pragmatic ESB'/><category term='Slides'/><category term='Writings'/><category term='Craftsmanship'/><category term='REST'/><category term='Statistics'/><category term='Review'/><category term='Corporate'/><category term='Caching'/><category term='MS'/><category term='Fun'/><category term='Science'/><category term='SOA'/><category term='Google'/><category term='Testing'/><category term='Platform'/><category term='Scala'/><category term='Readings'/><category term='SD West 2007'/><category term='Multi-threading'/><category term='Conferences'/><category term='Data'/><category term='World'/><category term='DDJ'/><category term='agile'/><category term='Ruby'/><category term='Tools'/><category term='QCon'/><category term='Hardware'/><category term='operations'/><category term='Hiring'/><category term='Off-topic'/><category term='devops'/><category term='Monitoring'/><category term='Cloud'/><category term='R'/><category term='Erlang'/><title type='text'>Comments on Just Do I.T.: Software Manifestos: A Matter Of Trust?</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://blog.dossot.net/feeds/3253412839385315537/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/3253412839385315537/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.dossot.net/2009/10/software-manifestos-matter-of-trust.html'/><author><name>David Dossot</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13987512594987806769</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wgiUOehXWyI/SNMVc_IHoII/AAAAAAAAAGA/0Z7-478Vet4/s1600-R/c48948f53594545aa48de2146389f48a.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>4</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13243193.post-3552651518010993115</id><published>2009-11-01T17:19:36.862-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T17:19:36.862-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Pierre, thanks for chiming in and sharing your tho...</title><content type='html'>Pierre, thanks for chiming in and sharing your thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reconciliation of the macro and micro aspects of software development can appear daunting if it is tried to be done by committees.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe that any competently developed piece of software can fit the big picture without the need for this big picture to be pushed down the throats of developers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you suggest: armed with enough knowledge of the global strategy (the True North in your terms), competent developers should be trusted with establishing the tactics.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/3253412839385315537/comments/default/3552651518010993115'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/3253412839385315537/comments/default/3552651518010993115'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.dossot.net/2009/10/software-manifestos-matter-of-trust.html?showComment=1257124776862#c3552651518010993115' title=''/><author><name>David Dossot</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13987512594987806769</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wgiUOehXWyI/SNMVc_IHoII/AAAAAAAAAGA/0Z7-478Vet4/s1600-R/c48948f53594545aa48de2146389f48a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.dossot.net/2009/10/software-manifestos-matter-of-trust.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13243193.post-3253412839385315537' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/posts/default/3253412839385315537' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1284634711'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13243193.post-7529197150402946406</id><published>2009-11-01T11:04:50.420-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T11:04:50.420-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi David,

Interesting position.
I take notice abo...</title><content type='html'>Hi David,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interesting position.&lt;br /&gt;I take notice about 2 things:&lt;br /&gt;- the PIC&lt;br /&gt;- sw developers recognition by the business&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Concerning your PIC example, my point of view is that developers wouldn&amp;#39;t be the pilot but, in fact, they are the aircraft engineers, Dynamics Engineers, Flight regulators, nothing else...And a good PIC cannot flight safely without these guys.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Point 2, recognition by the business? trust between between Biz and Dev.? How?&lt;br /&gt;Business has Macrovision, SW need to have Microvision.&lt;br /&gt;I don&amp;#39;t understand why these two parts of the same puzzle are searching to be the best one: non sense.&lt;br /&gt;If you want trust: be trustful.&lt;br /&gt;If you want to be a good Executive, don&amp;#39;t be a sw developer: give True North and manage the strategy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According, at last to your reflexion about Manifestos, I agree that too much manifesto is just noise in a coalition research.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For all the rest of the discussion, I agree with you: Scrum is a Way&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;;)))&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kind regards from the little Gran Duchy&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pierre</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/3253412839385315537/comments/default/7529197150402946406'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/3253412839385315537/comments/default/7529197150402946406'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.dossot.net/2009/10/software-manifestos-matter-of-trust.html?showComment=1257102290420#c7529197150402946406' title=''/><author><name>Pierre</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05500869519242058608</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.dossot.net/2009/10/software-manifestos-matter-of-trust.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13243193.post-3253412839385315537' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/posts/default/3253412839385315537' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-271909405'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13243193.post-7527085556283775569</id><published>2009-10-31T17:24:50.060-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-31T17:24:50.060-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Michael, thanks a lot for your insightful comments...</title><content type='html'>Michael, thanks a lot for your insightful comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Indeed software is here to stay and one can only hope that our - still young - industry will evolve and realize what matters and what doesn&amp;#39;t.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/3253412839385315537/comments/default/7527085556283775569'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/3253412839385315537/comments/default/7527085556283775569'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.dossot.net/2009/10/software-manifestos-matter-of-trust.html?showComment=1257035090060#c7527085556283775569' title=''/><author><name>David Dossot</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13987512594987806769</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wgiUOehXWyI/SNMVc_IHoII/AAAAAAAAAGA/0Z7-478Vet4/s1600-R/c48948f53594545aa48de2146389f48a.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.dossot.net/2009/10/software-manifestos-matter-of-trust.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13243193.post-3253412839385315537' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/posts/default/3253412839385315537' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1284634711'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13243193.post-3235225831706142146</id><published>2009-10-31T16:08:56.842-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-31T16:08:56.842-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks for the post David.
Having business trustin...</title><content type='html'>Thanks for the post David.&lt;br /&gt;Having business trusting s/w developers will be really good indeed :-). And you are right by identifying complexity as the main cause of development issues. Most business leaders don&amp;#39;t understand the complexity that developers need to deal with. To make matter worse this is a log term complexity that has ramifications well beyond initial release date. &lt;br /&gt;In pilot example, it is very easy for business to assess success or failure of the flight. If pilot managed to get safely from point A to point B, he can be trusted to do it again.&lt;br /&gt;In s/w world it is possible to successfully deliver first version of a product by doing crazy hours and no testing. It can and in most cases is announced as a success by management. We s/w professionals know that business will pay for that later but many enterprises are driven by short term goals.&lt;br /&gt;As business managers don&amp;#39;t see or understand complexity of s/w system it is difficult to demonstrate to them monetary value of good design and s/w practices.&lt;br /&gt;So far, business models of s/w development are not well understood. I hope that sometime in future lean s/w development approach will be taught in MBA programs. S/W is such important part of modern economy and only handful of companies do it well.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/3253412839385315537/comments/default/3235225831706142146'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/3253412839385315537/comments/default/3235225831706142146'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.dossot.net/2009/10/software-manifestos-matter-of-trust.html?showComment=1257030536842#c3235225831706142146' title=''/><author><name>Michael Vax</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04668209493839958165</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.dossot.net/2009/10/software-manifestos-matter-of-trust.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13243193.post-3253412839385315537' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/13243193/posts/default/3253412839385315537' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-40063949'/></entry></feed>
